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Arc XXXVI: The Superman Project 
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Judge not, lest you be judged. There's a lot more wisdom behind that hackneyed phrase than most people care to think about.


Actually most people who actually care to think about it realize that its nothing more then abit of rhetorical nonsense and a denial of human nature specifically our natural xenophobic tendencies, we are always judging and sizing up others and we can't help it. Its instinct, its how in the past we kept ourselves safe from our neighbors or whoever who weren't always friendly and we aren't the only species to do it. Mind you its not always a beneficial instinct given its also led to people invading or raiding their neighbors preemptively due to paranoia about them being raided first. Also us judging others is what keeps societies together in the first place. If we didn't judge others, we wouldn't be able to govern ourselves or develop actual governments which is essential for keeping any society together.

Whether you judge or don't judge you will be judged regardless, its inevitable so long as there is people outside yourself or you live in a society. Moreover to deny that you judge is in itself nonsense. We have to judge others in order to function and survive in today's society. Telling somebody not to judge others in any society really is along the lines of saying "Let there be anarchy" which is not exactly praiseworthy or awe inspiring.

Now I think it should have gone something more like this:

Don't judge others by what you believe or do, else you will be judged by others who do not share what you believe or do using the standard you believe or do to show how hypocritical you really are by your own beliefs


Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you to will be judged. 7.2 For in the same way as you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

As soon as you make a judgement, you do so according to your beliefs. Otherwise, you would have no grounds for judgement. How can you judge a stranger without first having a preconception by which to judge them by? Would YOU have someone judge you according to preconceptions? Like "All atheists are immoral pricks?"

Actually, most people who actually care to understand it can tell you that it is a very commonsense call NOT to allow preconceptions to get in the way of being a brother to your fellow man. Are you going to be a slave to your instinct? Are you going to allow instinct to prevent you from empathizing with another?

If you follow up the full verse, its about hypocrisy and self introspection, but I'm not going to go there. I'll leave it as transcending your baser instincts. Maybe its because I'm a child of a society that believes in institutional racism.

As for the rest of society judging you - so what? You know how you can stop society from judging you? Be the first one to stop judging them. (re: Ghandi)

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I don't need to do your exercise to know my own thought processes, I can tell you right now exactly how I judge people by their needs, I visually examine their clothing, physical condition, hygiene, psychological condition if I have time to talk, how they smell and their stature and if applicable how reasonable their request is given their current condition if they ask for help. Sounds like alot but aside from the psychological condition you can size all that up in about 20-30 seconds. And while it sounds like some work to learn, actually its not. Most people are constantly doing this already subconsciously, again its instinct I'm just aware I'm doing it an have put a little more thought into the process which is already there. On the matter of the money, if I went out with $10 with the intention of giving it away, it'd all be given away; either to people on the street or to a local charity.


Right. And those are brilliant ways of judging how needy a person is at any point in time. News flash - My cousin's husband committed suicide in a brand new jacket, suit and tie. My aunt was abandoned and turned out of her home by her own children, yet she never once let it get in the way of her dressing presentably, or having a smile on her face or a kind word for others.

If you'd given a fuck, maybe you might have concluded that the object of that exercise was to evaluate how reasonable your thought processes are when it comes to actually being a real human being to other real human beings. Not a bag of neurons and synapses pumping out biological 1's and 0's.

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*shakes head*

I really don't know how to speak with you, Silver. To my world, my way of... thinking?... you're an aberration. I pray I never become as dispassionate, analytical and calculating as you so often appear.

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HEY!
You guys got spare money shove it my way before the government gets it and wastes it like it did the rest.

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Sending you my response via PM Spirit since its long and we are getting a bit off topic here.

I will say this much here though. I do resent being accused of being dispassionate just because I think differently then some people.

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I wonder which version of Supergirl Swifty's speaking of. The one who's part angel with the fiery wings? Or the one who has Comet the wonder horse as a companion! :P

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I wonder which version of Supergirl Swifty's speaking of. The one who's part angel with the fiery wings? Or the one who has Comet the wonder horse as a companion! :P


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If you'd given a fuck, maybe you might have concluded that the object of that exercise was to evaluate how reasonable your thought processes are when it comes to actually being a real human being to other real human beings. Not a bag of neurons and synapses pumping out biological 1's and 0's.

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If you'd given a fuck, maybe you might have concluded that the object of that exercise was to evaluate how reasonable your thought processes are when it comes to actually being a real human being to other real human beings. Not a bag of neurons and synapses pumping out biological 1's and 0's.

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I will say this much here though. I do resent being accused of being dispassionate just because I think differently then some people.


I'd like to say I'm sorry, but I think its gotten to the point where I should just shut up whenever you are involved. Or Xuncu. I can't argue worth a damn and I just end up being a jerk and utterly failing to get my point across.

Its hard being the dumbest kid on the block.

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*unplugs* Not on my watch, Agent Smith!

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Dawwwww. will you look at me. :D

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Cute strip today, but I for one hope it doesn't go beyond the snuggle given the circumstances which lead to it or if it looks like its going to Swift has the sense to back off till he can be sure shes thinking straight given her recent loss.

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Daaw, so cute. So does this mean she's Swifty's Lois Lane? For her sake, I hope not... Lois Lane seemed to attract trouble like a giant magnet.

Could be interesting, though.

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Cute strip today, but I for one hope it doesn't go beyond the snuggle given the circumstances which lead to it or if it looks like its going to Swift has the sense to back off till he can be sure shes thinking straight given her recent loss.


True, but after his earlier actions, not a lot of other guys will be able to compare in the future.

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Well, I can honestly say I like how this story is going. It's nice to get just a decent story in the Jackverse every now and then, not everything has to be doom and gloom.

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Well, I can honestly say I like how this story is going. It's nice to get just a decent story in the Jackverse every now and then, not everything has to be doom and gloom.


And that's when the boat sinks, killing all on board. :D


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There has to be something still looming.

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Actually I'm fairly certain that Superman better watch out, otherwise he's going to the Special hell.

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Actually I'm fairly certain that Superman better watch out, otherwise he's going to the Special hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxLz6O6MaI


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Sure thing, I was only doing it to get through the weekend anyway.

Anyway, I absolutely loved the last panel. I'm kinda jealous though. Sure I could watch the sunrise, put my arm around a girl, (well, first I'll need a date, but that's just a technical detail) but I'll always lack a nice, fluffy tail to wrap around her.

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I'm just actively willing this story end on a happy note at this point. I know Salkafar's waiting for Swifty to reveal a refrigerator full of body parts or something, but I remain optimistic.

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Post Re: Arc XXXVI: The Superman Project
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Actually I'm fairly certain that Superman better watch out, otherwise he's going to the Special hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxLz6O6MaI


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The SPECIAL hell.........


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I'm just actively willing this story end on a happy note at this point. I know Salkafar's waiting for Swifty to reveal a refrigerator full of body parts or something, but I remain optimistic.

Generally speaking either works for me, but this time I rather prefer a happy ending and another cute page wouldn't hurt either. *Shrug.* We'll see.

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But, of course, the question you have left to ask: Was the traveler really a fool? Everyone took advantage of him, but he wanted to help them, regardless if he knew they were lying to him or not. So, when you help someone, are you really a fool?




You become a fool for helping folks when helping folks keeps you from helping anyone else further in the future. At the point your just trading your happiness for someone else's misery and that is counter productive.

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I think I would stop well short of letting someone eat my eyes. Not even zombies would do that They're not unreasonable, I mean, they wouldn't eat my eyes.

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I think I would stop well short of letting someone eat my eyes. Not even zombies would do that They're not unreasonable, I mean, they wouldn't eat my eyes.


Of course not! Brains are much more nutritious for a growing zombie horde. Eyes are the zombie equivalent of the sprig of parsley on the plate.


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Anyway, I absolutely loved the last panel. I'm kinda jealous though. Sure I could watch the sunrise, put my arm around a girl, (well, first I'll need a date, but that's just a technical detail) but I'll always lack a nice, fluffy tail to wrap around her.


Think of it as a friendly hug, which she gave permission for by touching his hand. Touching is indeed one way of showing the kindness which is so important in life, but of course one needs to do it properly and only if it is permitted. In contrast, the child-molester and child-murderer Dr. Thalmus (who originated in "Suffer") would be someone who definitely engaged in improper touching, for instance.

I also wonder if the driver honking at the two of them is the irate driver from before, who Swifty rebuked for not helping the stranded motorist. Even if not, the same problem is that too many people expect life to go so exactly as planned so that they can essentially do whatever they want and take whatever they want, so much so that even when encounters a selfless Superman one ends up believing his resources are infinite when they are actually only finite. That is why I appreciate Swifty's straightforwardness about his "tight schedule" (I have been personally going through that too often myself recently) and thus how he simply cannot do everything all at once. The point here being that not only does he show remarkable patience despite the seemingly endless demands that are placed upon him for being Superman but also that he makes sure to communicate when events are so pressing that he has to pace himself out in order to efficiently use his finite resources in such a way he resolves them all.

Even events such as a five year old's Frisbee stuck upon a roof. A Frisbee is indeed trivial in relation to a dying father, but still better to not rebuke and/or neglect the concern about the Frisbee since it is indeed still important within the perception of child that lost it. Plus of course sometimes that which now seems trivial actually turns out to be quite important in the end -- such as how a politician has some issues in his past which cause concerns for those supporting him to be the new Chancellor and to resolve the current crisis, yet his supporters support him anyway since think they will still be able to keep a leash on him to keep that politician from going to excess ... the politician being elevated to Chancellor, however, being Adolf Hitler.

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Was the traveler really a fool?


Yes, he was a fool. Darwin prevails.

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When you show concern even about the smallest issues, not only do you touch everybody but you also keep people from being inappropriately touched.



.....What? :shock:


Your tongue is inserted in your cheek there, right?

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But, of course, the question you have left to ask: Was the traveler really a fool? Everyone took advantage of him, but he wanted to help them, regardless if he knew they were lying to him or not. So, when you help someone, are you really a fool?




You become a fool for helping folks when helping folks keeps you from helping anyone else further in the future. At the point your just trading your happiness for someone else's misery and that is counter productive.

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I have this nagging feeling that Once swifty goes inside his apartment there will be some kidnapped girl or something. I'm crossing my fingers there won't be but there is rarely a cheery Jack Comic.


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I suspect that the driver in Panel six is looking at the "other shoe", due to the Law of Conservation of Detail.

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But, of course, the question you have left to ask: Was the traveler really a fool? Everyone took advantage of him, but he wanted to help them, regardless if he knew they were lying to him or not. So, when you help someone, are you really a fool?




You become a fool for helping folks when helping folks keeps you from helping anyone else further in the future. At the point your just trading your happiness for someone else's misery and that is counter productive.

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What happened to my comment? I'm guessing a mod edit? In that case, when you edit a comment, could you not only leave a comment like all the other posters, but also send a PM as to why you felt the edit was necessary? I'd like to know which one posted it and it makes me feel like I've done something wrong.



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When you show concern even about the smallest issues, not only do you touch everybody but you also keep people from being inappropriately touched.


.....What? :shock:

Your tongue is inserted in your cheek there, right?


I apologize for the lack of clarity. I was using the word "touched" as a metaphor instead of a physical action there, such as "being touched by the kindness of a stranger," which itself was what inspired the "Touched by an Angel" television program. That type of kindness tends to inspire kindness from others as well, hence how it helps keep people from acting cruel towards each other instead -- which "touches" everyone in a much more negative way.

Of course what I would really like to see here is a situation where Swifty actually does something kind for somebody but where the person is somehow not grateful for his kindness and thus who llogically responds to it with anger and cruelty instead -- like Lex Luthor does towards Superman, for instance -- since that can be a terrible shock to one's own self-confidence.

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But, of course, the question you have left to ask: Was the traveler really a fool? Everyone took advantage of him, but he wanted to help them, regardless if he knew they were lying to him or not. So, when you help someone, are you really a fool?




You become a fool for helping folks when helping folks keeps you from helping anyone else further in the future. At the point your just trading your happiness for someone else's misery and that is counter productive.

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What happened to my comment? I'm guessing a mod edit? In that case, when you edit a comment, could you not only leave a comment like all the other posters, but also send a PM as to why you felt the edit was necessary? I'd like to know which one posted it and it makes me feel like I've done something wrong.


Probably what happened was one of the mods or admins was responding to your message, and hit *edit* instead of *quote*. An honest mistake, at least I'm assuming it is.

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What happened to my comment? I'm guessing a mod edit? In that case, when you edit a comment, could you not only leave a comment like all the other posters, but also send a PM as to why you felt the edit was necessary? I'd like to know which one posted it and it makes me feel like I've done something wrong.[/quote]


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Anyway, I absolutely loved the last panel. I'm kinda jealous though. Sure I could watch the sunrise, put my arm around a girl, (well, first I'll need a date, but that's just a technical detail) but I'll always lack a nice, fluffy tail to wrap around her.

Think of it as a friendly hug, which she gave permission for by touching his hand.

All I'm saying is that regardless of the reason for intimacy a nice fluffy tail would definitelly be a asset.

Oh, and I read Klebkatt's story before the accidental edit and I found it sad and a little creepy. And yes; the traveler was a fool.

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Couldn't figure out all the horn honking, considering the guy in the car wasn't looking at Swifty and company...then realized Swifty still had the helicopter harness on. They probably landed the helicopter right in the middle of the street! :lol:

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I'm curious... and they hook up, will Swifty be faster then a speeding bullet? :lol:

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I don't know about that. I'd be happy with just being faster than a speeding ticket.

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The SPECAIL hell!!!!!!


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I am just waiting for the kryptonite bullet.

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I am just waiting for the kryptonite bullet.



Which comes in the form of her already having a boyfriend?

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The SPECAIL hell!!!!!!


I second the motion :twisted:

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Sorry I pressed the wrong button

Okay, I was just confused as to what happened. Thanks for letting me know. :)

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I'm starting to wonder if Swifty is an actor and what we've been seeing is some kind of television drama

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...showoff. =P

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Swifty is using his enormous wealth and connections to hold-up traffic, disrupt commuters and endanger people in nearby buildings all the purpose of needlessly showing off to his new girlfriend...

I love it!

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Swifty and the helocopter pilot would have been thrown into jail and fined to heck and back for this stunt.

Helocopters have intense downdrafts generated from the twirlling blades and would have put everyone nearby in mortal danger from flying debris. That doesn't even include possible property damages and him, like DWD said, disrupting traffic.

And I think I discovered the real reason he does this: to get tail.

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Swifty and the helocopter pilot would have been thrown into jail and fined to heck and back for this stunt.


Didn't we establish early on that Swifty already got an "in" with the local police? :wink:

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Helocopters have intense downdrafts generated from the twirlling blades and would have put everyone nearby in mortal danger from flying debris. That doesn't even include possible property damages and him, like DWD said, disrupting traffic.


I could argue that the chopper is shown hovering lower than it normally would be because of space constrictions of the page, but rather this not a real life situtation and just a fun story to be enjoyed at face value, but.... oh wait, I just did aruge that.

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And I think I discovered the real reason he does this: to get tail.


Connie doesn't have a tial. Getting tail: Swifty is doing it wrong :P

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I still say this is all a preface story. Later we'll see Swifty kicking around Vanity's domain wondering why he was sent there.

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I still say this is all a preface story. Later we'll see Swifty kicking around Vanity's domain wondering why he was sent there.

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He's not doing this out of vanity...

Ugggh, I just know the reveal, when it comes, will be terrible...

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He's not doing this out of vanity...

Ugggh, I just know the reveal, when it comes, will be terrible...


Come'n Swifty, You can tell us... You have the hots of Connie... Nobody flys that high and not be in love....

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He's not doing this out of vanity...

Ugggh, I just know the reveal, when it comes, will be terrible...



~pats his back~ Just relax Salk, the touchy feely arc will be over soon and we can go back to arcs with things which make our skin crawl in no time.

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This is making my skin crawl.

Maybe it's like an M. Night Shyamalan flick.

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He's not doing this out of vanity...

Ugggh, I just know the reveal, when it comes, will be terrible...



~pats his back~ Just relax Salk, the touchy feely arc will be over soon and we can go back to arcs with things which make our skin crawl in no time.

I guess we're just not used to a Jack arc having a nice character that dont turn out to have underwear made out of someones face or something

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And I think I discovered the real reason he does this: to get tail.

I think that's the primary reason most furs get out of bed in the morning...... Well, that and breakfast obviously. Hmm, I wonder if Heaven is like that...... Hot girl, nice comfy pillows and breakfast in bed...... Yeah, works for me.

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Aside from what Swifty had done in the previous ("Away!") strip likely violating a number of real life Federal Aviation Administration (or other aeronautical) rules, I begin to worry that the flaw is not so much any vested, selfish interest in being helpful on his part but rather the that the flaw is the vested, selfish interests in those that help him to be helpful. We have already seen that the responsibilities Swifty has assumed sometimes exceeds what he is able to do on his own and thus why he has to delegate some of that responsibility to others to achieve what he does, but that does not mean that those others would necessarily share the same selfless goals, thus how those Swifty ends up delegating to could take indirect advantage of his kindness.

The reason I say that is because of the "You're hired" remark is being made to Connie simply for walking through the door, it sounds too good to be true -- and too often if something is too good to be true it is, which is also the reason that many are also suspicious of Swifty's own motives.

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I wonder if it's a certain rhino... nah, not going to go there.

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I've got a feeling I know who the Anti-Trump is...

...but yes. This also makes me feel rather suspicious... but then again I grew up as a raging cynic, so it's in my nature to be suspicious of free all-you-can-eat buffets. >.>;

If there's one thing my dad taught me, it's this: if it sounds too good to be true, and it looks too good to be true, and you can't see at first look any way how it's actually too good to be true...

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I've got a feeling I know who the Anti-Trump is...


I'll call it right now. Waiting for her upstairs, "New Hires" sign hand-scribbled and taped to the door, "You're hired!" as soon as she opens the door: it's Swifty. And now we know how he's capable of doing the things he does, as head of a multinational corporation, he has resources available to him all over the world. Basically, I think Swifty is Jack's equivalent to Tony Stark, aka Ironman, and Connie is going to become his Pepper.

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Man, if only it were that easy.

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hm, could that be one of the world trade center buildings?

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O.o

maybe its just me ._.;;


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And I think I discovered the real reason he does this: to get tail.

I think that's the primary reason most furs get out of bed in the morning...... Well, that and breakfast obviously. Hmm, I wonder if Heaven is like that...... Hot girl, nice comfy pillows and breakfast in bed...... Yeah, works for me.

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If there's one thing my dad taught me, it's this: if it sounds too good to be true, and it looks too good to be true, and you can't see at first look any way how it's actually too good to be true...

It usually is.

Trust your dad one this one.

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I'll call it right now. Waiting for her upstairs, "New Hires" sign hand-scribbled and taped to the door, "You're hired!" as soon as she opens the door: it's Swifty. And now we know how he's capable of doing the things he does, as head of a multinational corporation, he has resources available to him all over the world. Basically, I think Swifty is Jack's equivalent to Tony Stark, aka Ironman, and Connie is going to become his Pepper.

That would actually be a interesting twist. ''Superman'', with the power of Lex Luthor.

(On a completely unrelated note: I think Tony Stark's a obnoxious asshole.)

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I've started the countdown... (Will explain Friday)


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I've started the countdown... (Will explain Friday)

...... Does anyone have a clue what the hell he's talking about? :?

(On a unrelated note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPTbSJH0lE.)

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I've started the countdown... (Will explain Friday)

...... Does anyone have a clue what the hell he's talking about? :?

(On a unrelated note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPTbSJH0lE.)


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Could it have something to do with the new arc/short? If you go into the arc viewer, you can see that the Superman arc has ended, and now we have a short, "Megan 1" and another short, "Drip Clean Your Room".

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it's not done yet.

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I've started the countdown... (Will explain Friday)

...... Does anyone have a clue what the hell he's talking about? :?

(On a unrelated note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPTbSJH0lE.)


Erasmus, you've just lost your YouTube privileges for the week... :x

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I'm guessing the countdown is the number of arcs left in the Jack storyline. we've passed the 1/2 way mark at Fnar reborn.


(Note given everything thats gone on I really hope Fnar is getting Angelic secret service protection. If any of the sins really want to %&$# with Jack I can't think of any better way. Fnar in hell for cause would make Jack wrathful, probably wrathful enough to lash out at God herself. Which if I was Kane, would certainly be MY plan.


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So THAT'S how he was able to afford all that shit.


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There you go Salk its over. If you don't like that it ended without something bad happening, just imagine something bad happened if it makes you feel better. Like Swifty is a fur trafficker and his altruistic acts are all in order to gain attractive womens trust to draw them later to a 'job interview' in which they are jumped immediately upon passing through the door by two hired thugs, thus explaining Swiftys massive bankroll. All the people who helped or ignored him are either being paid off or are in on it to make a profit. Completely far fetched and unbelievable but at least its more in line with your expectations amirite.


sorry Salk, shouldn't be teasing you but I couldn't resist considering you seemed to absolutely need this arc to go south at somepoint.

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It's funny really; in almost ever other comic all of this would have been rather boring, but the, (understandable) suspicion that something horrible might happen kept it far more interesting then it would have been otherwise.

(I could throw in a nice YouTube vid, but I'm not allowed for the rest of the week.) :lol:

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So that's how it ended.

I was wondering how this was going to turn out. One idea I was considering for how this arc was going to turn out was as follows:

Instead of a deal with the devil or a sin, as we've seen before with Arloest, what about a deal with an angel ... say, Farrago?

The idea kind of sounds like something she'd come up with.

Swifty is given a "divine mandate." Any workable idea he comes up with to help someone "miraculously" comes to pass and he gets away with it... as long as it helps the person intended and he continues to come up with ideas that work. If a day ends with someone he's met remaining unhelped, his lucky streak ends and the ride is over. Hence his downcast expression when he is confronted with the girl's dying father... his luck may have just run out and his fabulous time as Superman is over... but he has one last burst of inspiration, and he fields a rescue chopper. And since it helps her, he gets away with it. As long as he stays ahead of the problem curve.

Heaven's intervention comes in the form of the people he's helped feeling generous enough to "buy-in" to the deal. If he broke the chain, so to speak, they'd suddenly "be too busy."

That's not how the arc went, but that's what came into my head as I wondered where this story was going. Instead of a mortal "superman" project, it was a supernatural "superman" project.


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What a delightful, life-affirming story. It brought a smile to my face at the end. :D

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Happiest. Arc. Ever.

Wouldn't it be funny if it were never revisited and just stayed with this ending?

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:D

See. A nice happy ending. That wasn't so bad, was it?

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*blinks* wow, that was much shorter than expected.

And happier. :)

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See. A nice happy ending. That wasn't so bad, was it?

D: Oh... oh god. I dont feel cynical or bitter vindication! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF NOW D8

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Ahh, pretty sneaky move there, Dave... making us all think something bad was going to happen. I wish all CEOs were as nice as Swifty. That would be so cool. Oh well...

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Saw the ending, "OF course".

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Great arc, Mr. Hopkins. Caught me off-guard. I'm so use to "crappy endings" (well, we are dealing mostly with the reaper and hell), that I didn't expect to see a "typical" happy ending like this one.

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See. A nice happy ending. That wasn't so bad, was it?


Not at all, I enjoyed it ^^

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See. A nice happy ending. That wasn't so bad, was it?


IDK, for me it felt like I was jipped. Much like Salk I was dying for something to happen to bring Swifty down to harshness of reality. That he can't help everyone and that hes not a superhero he imagines himself to be, just a regular joe like everybody else who can't win every battle. To me that would have been a much better story then it being all lollipops and rainbows, something to reflect what Dave had said earlier in the arc. I wanted him to realize that hes human and faliable that, he can fail and end up hurting himself along with the person he built up hopes in yet decide that it was worth the risk and discomfort to keep 'fighting' because its what he believes in and continue as himself rather then some childhood icon and it'd be that which made the person he tried to help realize that hes sincerely trying inorder to have them be able to appreciate what he tried to do.

This is all my opionion of course, not a serious criticism of the arc considering we do need something uplifting on occasion to bring us out of the bleakness which surrounds most of the other arcs.

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Silvermane wrote:
Swifty wrote:
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See. A nice happy ending. That wasn't so bad, was it?


IDK, for me it felt like I was jipped. Much like Salk I was dying for something to happen to bring Swifty down to harshness of reality. That he can't help everyone and that hes not a superhero he imagines himself to be, just a regular joe like everybody else who can't win every battle. To me that would have been a much better story then it being all lollipops and rainbows, something to reflect what Dave had said earlier in the arc. I wanted him to realize that hes human and faliable that, he can fail and end up hurting himself along with the person he built up hopes in yet decide that it was worth the risk and discomfort to keep 'fighting' because its what he believes in and continue as himself rather then some childhood icon and it'd be that which made the person he tried to help realize that hes sincerely trying inorder to have them be able to appreciate what he tried to do.

This is all my opionion of course, not a serious criticism of the arc considering we do need something uplifting on occasion to bring us out of the bleakness which surrounds most of the other arcs.


Maybe all those things have happened to him and instead of adopting a Superman persona for himself, he does it for others because it is easier to accept the fact that a "superhero" helps people to help, but regular people have motives.

Anyway, I'm glad it ended that way. It was just a snippet in Swifty's journey to be an awesome person. With the plot of "Jack" having bad that happen to... everybody, it's nice to see something good happen just for the sake of it.

I'm sure it's to soften the blow of what ever mindfuckery will be in the next arc, so I'll bask in the cuteness while I can.

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For those who haven't caught onto the sensation that is Furaffinity, joined, and then added Dave, here are the notes for "The Superman Project."

Also: Yay for happy ending! Thanks for delivering yet another awesome story.

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The TTFN already?

Ah, still, a happy end's a happy end. And it's nice to have a breath of fresh air from the despair.

Anywho, time to read them notes from Dave...

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I don't know but for me it seemed like there needed to be a somewhat happy arc. Otherwise, people would constantly think it would end with a tragedy, much like people did with this arc. This keeps things somewhat unexpected.


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I wasn't so much dying for it as that I was expecting it.

Now I don't know. I don't know what to think. I don't get it at all.

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It didn't fill you with a joy of life, Salkafar? Don't you want to run through the fields hugging woodland creatures?

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It didn't fill you with a joy of life, Salkafar? Don't you want to run through the fields hugging woodland creatures?


If you've seen the ones on south park, you'd understand why he wouldn't

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Who is driving? Happy Ending is driving!

HOW CAN THIS BE

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I blame you Vinch. Say, do you think I could get away with two happy endings in a row?


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Dave wrote:
Every once in a while I come up with a story that makes me smile every time I think about it. Not a mischievous “I’m really gonna fuck with the readers now” type of smile, though I get those too. But a “This is a good story” type of smile.


You had no intention of fucking with your readers and yet, for some of your readers that's probably the greatest mindfuck of all. What a delicious irony. I really liked this ending, very unexpected but also very pleasant.

Nice work on this story. ;)

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